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I am so tired of these alernative constitutions of the universe. The first two were the laughing and the crying philosphers (5th century BC). The names you should know: one said that God (if he existed ) stood apart from his creation. He inspired a long Latin poem called THE WAY THINGS ARE. number two the crying philosopher proposed A god who was unintelligable to mankind. This fellow's work was corrupted in John's Gospel. The beauty of the saint of Aosta is that it allows to acknowledge that we exist, provides both existence and attributes to God. This is Einstein's God: the Absolute independent of the universe with a list of rules (Spinoza)that are absolute. Jung calls these rules archetypes. Einstein called it relativity because there is an Absolute Brother G.'s objection is secundum quid. The application of a concept to an inappropriate concept. GOD is not island. He is the single example of this category.--Flowers10 14:55, March 18, 2010 (UTC)--Flowers10 14:55, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

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