Talk: Pierre Chang

About the numbers and letters.

Hello, some parts of the following text are coded in ASCII, some in Hexadecimal, some binaries, and so on... 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42, 2^2, 2^3, 3*5, 2^4, 23, 2*3*7, 4, 8, F, 10, 17, 2A, #x64; #x68; #x61; #x72; #x6D; #x61; 0x04, 0x08, 0x0F, 0x10, 0x17, 0x2A, #916; #920; #913; #931; #925; #913; 64, 68, 61, 72, 6D, 61, 69, 6E, 69, 74, 69, 61, 74, 69, 76, 65, 100, 1000, 1111, 10000, 10111, 101010, 0061, 006C, 0076, 0061, 0072, 0020, 0068, 0061, 006E, 0073, 006F, 108, 10, 5D, 11, 1H, 51, 9A, 23, 6R, 92, 4M, 65, 2A, 64, 6F, 6E, 74, 70, 72, 65, 73, 73, 69, 74, 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42, #85; #110; #105; #118; #101; #114; #115; #105; #116; #121; #32; #111; #102; #32; #77; #105; #99; #104; #105; #103; #97; #110; 22, 23, 3*5, 24, 23, 2*3*7, x6E; perdu; x61; x72; x76; x69; x6B; 66. 132. 217. 131, 62, 39, N, 16, 32, E, C5, 4E, 47, 45, 63, 61, 72, 72,6F, 74, 73, di, 9f, f, tr, 73, 1, 4, h, 8, a, 15, n, 16, s, 23, o, 42, 4, a, 8, l, 15, v, 16, a, 23, r, 42

I'm a member of a french forum about Lost. We talked about this "text" in that thread ( http://guillaumedupuis.free.fr/viewtopic.php?p=50122#50122 ). Here somes translations:

64, 68, 61, 72, 6D, 61, 69, 6E, 69, 74, 69, 61, 74, 69, 76, 65, (hexa) Means : dharmainitiative

0061, 006C, 0076, 0061, 0072, 0020, 0068, 0061, 006E, 0073, 006F (hexa) Means : alvar hanso

85; #110; #105; #118; #101; #114; #115; #105; #116; #121; #32; #111; #102; #32; #77; #105; #99; #104; #105; #103; #97; #110; (ascii)

Means : University of Michigan

100, 1000, 1111, 10000, 10111, 101010 (binaries) and 0x04, 0x08, 0x0F, 0x10, 0x17, 0x2A, (hexa) Means : 4,8,15,16,23,42 (thanks to Kay :) )

Hope it helps. And sorry for my piteous english.

Longshot

Started playing around with anagrams (again) and noticed that 'Marvin Candle' almost produces the word 'Dharma', so added the obvious H-word (Hanso), which didn't produce much of anything but if 'Mr E' was added, got this:

DHARMA INVOLVE SCANNER ALARM

Then replaced 'Mr E' with 'Mr Eko' and:

DHARMA MARKS NONVIOLENCE

but when I got

DHARMA CLEAN KNIVES MORON and DHARMA MELON CAVERNS OINK, I figured I've spent too much time on this again. --skks 03:14, 14 March 2006 (PST)

Amputee / relations

I didn't know all amputees were related, since it's on the theory section - I'll leave it be, but I would think some amputees might find it offensive to think that if two people have lost a limb they'd be related. --skks 08:12, 28 March 2006 (PST)

Sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. I'm just trying to make as many connections as possible, however obscure. Thank you for leaving my ravings alone. Russell 08:25, 28 March 2006 (PST)

My theory is Marvin Candle is, or is related to Mr. Paik.--Rew 01:23, 15 April 2006 (PDT)

Yeah what's the deal

I was thinking the same thing as the guy before. Just because 2 people don't have an arm/leg doesn't mean they're related. We know that that one lady lost her leg in a car accident, I see no possible way for her to be related to Marvin Candle

Marvin Candle website?

Well, what is it? The one I found was http://www.bigspaceship1.org/, which has him on the Division Staff with "Dr. Sharon Alva" (Sharon Alva = Alvar Hanso?) for the "EM Research Initiative: Project" -- Amberjet11 10:59, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Bigspaceship1 is a fansite. If you check the source, there is a link to UBC. UBC is University of British Columbia. I used to attend this school. It is not affiliated with ABC. -- Chatake 10:32, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Thanks for the heads-up, I thought it was for real! -- Amberjet11 10:59, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Prosthetic left arm?

Have you guys noticed in the film, on the episode ? that Marvin Candle/Mark Wickman was holding his hands together... could this mean that he did not actually have a prosthetic left arm?

Could it be that he lost his arm (or simply the mobility of it) because of the "incident"?--rdavid01 10:23, March 6th 2006 (PST)

Could it be his arm injury is as fake as his name in the video?

Infobox Template

What infobox template should be used, as this character is neither a flashback character nor a survivor. Ditto for infobox on Gerald DeGroot and Karen DeGroot Santa 03:19, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Real name of the Doctor

I thougt it was "Waxman" not "Wickman." The actor's credit on IMDB ([1]) lists his character as Waxman.--Christykilgorehadley 06:58, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

I have watch with the caption on and the name should be written Dr. Mark Wickmund. I think it would be appropriate that someone makes the necessary changes. Thank you, namaste, and good luck! :P

Waxman, as IMDB has it, would be funnier (Waxman=Candle). :) LOSTonthisdarnisland 09:03, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Yeah, but WICKman is still funny in connection with a candle. Just more evidence that the Dharma Initiative are laughing at us all. <g> --Amberjet11 14:13, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Too right. I'm waiting for the next 'orientation'; what will it be this time? Dr Taper? LOSTonthisdarnisland 10:03, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

Mark Wickmund/Marvin Candle

The second orientation film was made in 1980, before the incident (1985), that´s why he has both arms. This fact makes stronger the theory of the relationship between people with missing bodyparts

I was under the impression that *both* orientation movies had 1980 (C) dates? Absalom 09:38, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

They do--Tricksterson 09:42, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

The 1985 incident (from the blast door map I assume) is probably a different incident than the one mentioned in the swan orientation film.--Ernest 17:59, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

I've come to the conclusion that just about everything written on the map is irrelevant to the show except for the ? (and the other hatch names). The producers probably just threw it out as raw meat to make the net community go nuts (and boy did it work --Uth 20:26, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Anyone notice the string around his right wrist? Any significance to it? --Phil 12:26, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

I didn't notice the string, but offhand I would say it was probably a mala, used for Buddhist meditation. It's usually a set of 28 beads, but sometimes it's in string form (and sometimes knotted).--Amberjet11 14:12, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

see here, last image on lower right: http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Scenesfrompearlfilm.jpg --Phil 11:26, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

No offense to anyone, but it's kinda silly to say that Marvin Candle and Mark Wickmund are twins. Why would twins have two different last names?

Anything's possible. One or both could have been adopted and they got ruinited, perhaps by the Dharma initiative --Ernest 17:59, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

Wickman

Listening again, I'm fairly certain that he says 'Dr Mark Wickman'. LOSTonthisdarnisland 11:09, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

IMDB calls this character "Dr. Waxman/Candle" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0793130/fullcredits) --MoJo 12:36, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

IMDB is just as prone to incorrect information & typos as any other source. The other day I noticed this gem--a synopsis of 'Season 1, Episode 10: Raised by Another', states: 'Claire is attacked at night, but Jack thinks she's illusinating ...' (Obviously they meant hallucinating) LOSTonthisdarnisland 10:00, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

The "Waxman" reference might be to yet another alias yet to be revealed. As for the Wickman or Wickmund, the captioning clearly indicates Wickmund (Screenshot of Closed Captioning). Personally, I think there needs to be a strong argument going forward to refute this. In lieu of that, I think the references to Wickman should be changed to Wickmund and add a paragraph indicating that the name is somewhat in doubt. At the very least, searches for Wickmund should be directed to this page. As of now, a search on that name yields 0 entries. --Variable 03:57, 13 May 2006 (PDT)

Candle?

Where did the name "Dr. Candle" originate...I haven't been able to find that information.

Given in the Swan orientation film LOSTonthisdarnisland 10:02, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

Name

I have been hearing different methods of the name "Wickman". Some people call him Whitman, Whitmund, Wickmund, etc.

What is the confirmed spelling for his name?

I haven't seen a 'confirmed' spelling. The audio of the show stated Wickman. LOSTonthisdarnisland 10:01, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

and closed captioning said Wickmund... not the first time there was a discrepancy between CC and audio though. It happened notably on the CC for the radio transmission Boone picked up in the Nigerian plane last season.--Isotope23 11:02, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

On the HDTV closed captioning his name is given as "Wickmund". I have a screen shot with the captioning: Wickmund pic. The audio is inconclusive as he could be saying either Wickman or Wickmund with out emphashizing the "D". I think until the DVDs come out, the CC will be as much evidence as we are going to get. --Variable 19:30, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

I agree with discrepancies in CC. While Lost seems better than most, it's not unknown for CC to show incorrect spelling, incorrect wording, or something completely different because of a last minute script change. Is there anything official released? LOSTonthisdarnisland 04:57, 13 May 2006 (PDT)

I understand that CC isn't always perfect but it is the most authoratative source on the matter right now. I can't find any official crediting for the name on the internet. So what we have is the CC vs. nothing. And between a source that is not perfect but generally good vs. nothing, you have to go with the source. Besides, isn't CC how people figured out that Mr. Eko's name wasn't spelled "echo"? --Variable 11:45, 13 May 2006 (PDT)

I guess this could be faked, but this casting call sheet [2] has him listed as "DR WAXMAN/CANDLE"--Christykilgorehadley 12:12, 15 May 2006 (PDT)

Not sure the protocol on this but unless somebody else objects, I'm going to replace the usage of "Wickman" to "Wickmund" since that's how it is spelled in the closed captioning. I've already set up redirect entries for Wickmund to this page. --Variable 16:03, 15 May 2006 (PDT)

Waxman is another character, same actor. Flame Station, Candle, Wickman, Waxman ... note pattern established. Wickmund, despite the CC (error?), does not make sense. LOSTonthisdarnisland 08:25, 16 May 2006 (PDT)

I see the pattern: Candle → Wick → Wax → Flame. The ending of "man" or "mund" doesn't seem to affect it. Why do you think the CC is in error? --Variable 09:57, 16 May 2006 (PDT)

?

Does anyone think it's important that he is on the the island (inside the "?") for the pearl video, but appears to be in a lab in the swan video? --unsigned--

I don't know. Another mystery to be resolved, maybe. LOSTonthisdarnisland 04:57, 13 May 2006 (PDT)

Live Together, Die Alone

Is it just me, or does the "Other" shot by Sawyer looks somewhat like Marvin? You don't see much of him, but that was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this scene.

I definitely thought that too. Unfortunately since he fell facing away from the camera, it's really hard to say for sure. I was totally expecting them to flip over his body and reveal Wickman/Waxman's face. GateKeeper 07:59, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I also agree. I put it in the "theories" section, but if someone thinks this is too far-fetched, please feel free to take it out. It looked to me, from the small glimpse we saw of the man, that his hair was in the same style as Wickman's, with patches of grey on the sides. I think (hope) that since the identity of the man was not revealed, the Others will find his corpse or speak about his death in some way near the beginning of next season. Of course, he could just have been nobody. --Chesteadman 10:28, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

The fact that they didn't show the dead guy's face seems to indicate there's something special about him. But then again, if Jack saw Marvin Candle, he would make a big deal about it. --Charugan 12:05, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I just went back to the scene where he's shot and paused the image of the dead guy. I'm almost convinced it's Candle. Compare the sideburns between the two. Can someone post a picture?--Charugan 12:16, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I would, but my Tivo doesn't give good enough quality for that, and I can't PrntScrn the episode from ABC. And in response toC harugan's second statement, it is quite possible that Jack didn't recognize Candle at first, and what with his frustration over the Michael situation, it's easy to see why he would get distracted from examining the body for weapons and such. It is possible that the man is still alive - I don't recall seeing any blood. It's also possible that some other Losties/Sayid & Co. might go looking for Jack's party and stumble across the body following their tracks. --Loki 19:56, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

My first thought was it was CandleWaxman too, I had heard that he was going to be in the finale. The fact that the producers obviously designed the shot to make everyone think it was him should be proof enough that it wasn't ;-) Anyway, there still hasn't been anything really concrete to tie the Others in with Dharma. In fact, Kelvin said he joined the Dharma initiative, making him the only confirmed Dharma dude we've met on the island, and he refered to the Others as the hostiles, kind of indicating that they may not be part of the initiative. But if Candle was one of the Others, that would finally prove that the others are part of the initiative. --Uth 20:32, 25 May 2006 (PDT)