Talk: The Pearl

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As a sidenote it may prove somewhat relevant that when fishing Jin told Bernard that there were no pearls in the area.

Please add a better looking Pearl logo when time permits. I only used MS paint for mine. :P ~dissonance

Weren't there some words beneathe the circle? i wasn't paying enough attention

talk contribs 19:13, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

where did all this pearl info come from? I don't remember seeing a pearl orientation video Ernest 17:32, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

From the new episode, "?". It just ended. Did you miss it? ~dissonance

It's not on here on the us east coast for another 20 minutes. GREAT NOW THE EPISODE IS RUINED FOR ME. That's what I get for reading lostpedia so close to airtime :). Where are you that it's on already? - Ernest 17:44, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Canada! CTV plays Lost at 7:00 PM. I guess down in the USA you guys get it at 9:00 PM, huh? :P ~dissonance

I'm jealous - Ernest 17:59, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Luckily I don't remember much else from the episode but Pearl-related stuff, or you'd REALLY get a spoiler. :P ~dissonance

On the Orientation film it said "Dharma" in small letters right under the white circle. Eridani 21:53 10 May 2006 (EST)

If you look closely at the printout in The Pearl, it is NOT printing out the numbers. It starts with "400" and ends with "x" and two letters. It actually reminded me of some kind of hex programming.

There is definitely a part where it prints the numbers. It says "4815162342 accepted" over and over and over in a different shot. I double checked this.--Bremerton 19:37, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

i think i may be the numbers the time and then accepted

talk contribs 19:39, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Guys, im not sure about this... this may not be the ? of the blast door map but rather C IV (C4) on the map... Go here to find out: http://www.lost-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1252610&postcount=76 (Scroll down to the bottom of the post and reveal the spoiler Nusentinsaino talk contribs email

sadly, registration has been temporarly disabled by the administrator PanSavant 20:48, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Posted a screenie of the post... found here Nusentinsaino talk contribs email

Thanks again Nusent. I am trying to remember, but how the Pearl Orientation Video make reference to the other stations again? PanSavant 21:04, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

I think he only referred to The Swan... Nusentinsaino talk contribs email

No, he did refer to all the other stations, but as a total numerical count. I'll find out tomorrow when I can watch it again online. The other issue with The Door being the ? station, don't the photos show the Door as being on the coast of the island, not the center? PanSavant 21:10, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

True that is what i was thinking too... we should wait until further notice. Nusentinsaino talk contribs email

Futher analysis of the printout

- every entry on the sheet is formatted like so: 416020##:(05/53/41/29/17)

- sample numbers: 41602072:05, 41602073:53, 41602075:41, 41602077:29, 41602079:17

- if assumed that this refers to time, the difference between each additional log entry is 108 minutes

- taking example 41602072, this would translate to approximately 79 years of activity. The crash date was September 2004. Assuming these logs are from 2004, it would date the starting year of logging as approximately 1925!

It might not mean that it's how long the project's been going, it might just be how the computer stores dates internally. Unix systems, for instance, use an internal date format that starts 1/1/1970. If one were to print a log using that internal format, it wouldn't mean it's been logging or running since 1970. --Uth 08:59, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Video Camera

Is it just me, or did anyone else notice that Locke shined the flashlight on a video camera mounted in the corner of the room? If so, who is watching Pearl station, while they are watching everyone else? PanSavant 20:46, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

I noticed that too, and it seemed that Eko or Locke were not surprised, just concerned about it. Also, see the bold text above... this could mean that the Pearl is actually not the center of the blast door map... I think The Door is actually the center where it monitors everything. Nusentinsaino talk contribs email

During The Pearl scene, the angle of the camera viewing The Swan changes:

Unknown if this is just a continuity error, or if it means that someone is moving the camera. The camera that is actually in The Pearl did not appear to be very movable.--Zolointo 01:51, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

More than likely there are multiple cameras in each station, probably selectable manually or, by default, on some kind of rotation schedule.--Stew Erickson 05:15, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

numbers on the computer printout

when locke holds up the log file of whats being printed from the computer, there are sets of numbers. these numbers are a unix timestamp. all the ones on the sheet they do the closeup on translate to a date of 4/27/1971, with a time around 12:05 to 12:10. i think that pretty much clinches the theory of being the times when the code was entered and accepted on the computer at swan. --firesign 21:31, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Well, maybe. Unix counts time based on the number of seconds since 1 Jan 1970 GMT -- so, yes, the values given do seem to work out to 27 April 1971. But the numbers on the printout are eight-digit values followed by a comma and two more digits -- Unix timestamps are rarely if ever written that way. (If you're looking at fractions of a second, you might see something like 41602086.12, with a decimal, but not a colon.) --User:cdevers

it is possible that the number after the colon is related to the timestamp, but not actually part of it. --firesign 22:22, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Now there are a few things I don't really understand:

If these numbers are unix timestamps (which was my first impression, too) and they translate to a date of April 27 1971, how can the video be from 1980?
Since they start around that date, I assume this is either the first print of the log-file ever or the last one was just that day (April 27 1971). How come nobody printed it again till now?
Between the timestamps, there are only a few seconds. Not 104 to 108 minutes. Can not be the moment one of the numbers or a digit was entered either.
If there is an entry every few seconds, that makes a couple hundred million entries till now, doesn't it? The printer will run a couple of years untill it finied printing. ;-)

--Porter 06:21, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Three of the numbers, consecutively, were 41602075:41, 41602077:29, 41602079:17. The difference, if you consider the last four digits as time, is 108. It seems to be the timestamp of each time the numbers were entered in the Swan. Though, I can't really say what the first six numbers are. The 4 and 16 are two of "the numbers," of course, but the other ones seem to be incremental.

--Stranglet 09:46, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Locke + Map + Tube = STUPID!

Why did John just toss the map into the tube? I know he was really bummed about everything down there, but why? Obviously it worked enough to find the place. Now somebody is going to find it and start raising hell.

It seemed pointless to send his only self drawn map in to the tube. I scratched my head over the point of John doing that. --Phil 04:49, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

I think that was the whole point. He doesn't feel like he has a purpose again since he feels "pushing the button" doesn't have any real purpose. He is caving in on himself and doesn't care about anything. He doesn't care if "someone else" finds his map because he needs answers.

The most likely reason to me is that he feels he has no more need of it and wanted to test the tube. I mean, Sayid, Charlie, Eko, and Locke (at the least) all know how to get back to the crash site if they need to. Absalom 06:01, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Only monitoring the swan? Or all stations?

did the orientation video seem to indicate that the inhabitants of The Pearl were to monitor all of the other stations? or just the swan? only one monitor showed a picture, and that was of the swan... would the other monitors simply show more monitors from the swan, or would they show the other stations. thoughts? --Dotsam 01:04, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Since the monitors were numbered and match the number of stations it's almost certain there are cameras in each station. It could be that the missing signals from all the other stations indicate they are currently not "active."

Actually there are nine monitors, three rows of three. Wonder what the extra two are for.--Tricksterson 07:58, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Station 5 of 6?

Now, that we know 2 Orientation-films, can we say there are 6 stations?

The Orientation-film of The Swan was labled "3 of 6" - sure, this could mean there are 6 movies and one of them is Orientation - but The Swan is stations 3 - ok, could be just coincidence
The Orientation-video of The Pearl was labled "5 of 6" AND The Pearl is stations 5
If there are 6 videos per station, how come they only find the Orientation-films?
Why isn't Orientation #3 everytime?
Wouldn't it make more sence, if Orientation was the first (or the only one) of the videos?

So, to me it looks like there are 6 videos, 1 for each station.
--Porter 08:34, 11 May 2006 (PDT)